Guyau Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 .So, sir, do you know whether your life has unfolded better than Jonathan's or not, or does that require finding out the particulars of how his life has unfolded?And concerning God: He made specific conditional promises... ...and anyone who fulfills their moral responsibility to honorably uphold their part in those promises is alreadyenjoying God's blessings in their life... ...regardless of whether or not they "believe" in God. Contrary to popular opinion, God doesn't need our belief. Doing what's morally right isn't for His sake... it's for ourown good. Good for you. I wonder, however, how you take "believeth in me" of John 3:16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Whenever there is an obvious difference between subjective views, that difference is a natural result of each person living by different moral standards.This is hard to credit. If you say "this room is too hot" or "this spaghetti needs salt" and I say "no, it's just right as it is", we have an obvious difference between subjective views, but I wonder what moral standards have to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Whenever there is an obvious difference between subjective views, that difference is a natural result of each person living by different moral standards.This is hard to credit ...and I'm ok with that.Your agreement (or disagreement) is not necessary to me, only to yourself. You're the one who experiences the consequences of your belief because you're the one who acts on it.If you say "this room is too hot" or "this spaghetti needs salt" and I say "no, it's just right as it is", we have an obvious difference between subjective views, but I wonder what moral standards have to do with it.Morality has nothing to do with the conversation you posed because it is a non moral issue.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is like trying to talk nuclear strategy with Barbra Streisand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is like trying to talk nuclear strategy with Barbra Streisand.Just give it up and let go of the fantasy... because the reality is that no one has the power to convince another person to change their chosen view.Only the objective reality of the consequences you set into motion by your own actions possesses the power to do that.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is like trying to talk nuclear strategy with Barbra Streisand.Just give it up and let go of the fantasy... because the reality is that no one has the power to convince another person to change their chosen view.Only the objective reality of the consequences you set into motion by your own actions possesses the power to do that.GregYou're preaching your book.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 You're preaching your book.I'm just a bird that sings a one note song. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 A one note song. Hmmm? Greg when you agree with me you have said enough. But when you disagree it would be good to argue your point. I am not saying anyone is obligated to answer a question or to write an essay, and we know you are not an Objectivist but SOME expansion would be good.After five days of drizzle the sun has peaked out today and it is 76 outside. Sumsumsummertime is back.You might find this interesting. I usually put a can of beef bacon dog food out around 6pm for my gray fox but the buzzards have discovered it. Two days ago I saw a passle of them outside the window with three dominant, black, predator buzzards in the forefront polishing off my dollar a can dog food. Last night I chased them off with a fix net but they are still making passes over my back yard starting around three in the afternoon. I would prefer to not bring out the shotgun. Draw, you varmints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 A one note song. Hmmm? Greg when you agree with me you have said enough. But when you disagree it would be good to argue your point.Why?People don't change their view through mere words that appear on their monitor. That's what real life is for. The objective reality of life is what changes views, because it possesses the power of consequences.After getting a few two by fours over the head, people change their view.......and no one even needs to argue with them! Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 A one note song. Hmmm? Greg when you agree with me you have said enough. But when you disagree it would be good to argue your point. I am not saying anyone is obligated to answer a question or to write an essay, and we know you are not an Objectivist but SOME expansion would be good.After five days of drizzle the sun has peaked out today and it is 76 outside. Sumsumsummertime is back.You might find this interesting. I usually put a can of beef bacon dog food out around 6pm for my gray fox but the buzzards have discovered it. Two days ago I saw a passle of them outside the window with three dominant, black, predator buzzards in the forefront polishing off my dollar a can dog food. Last night I chased them off with a fix net but they are still making passes over my back yard starting around three in the afternoon. I would prefer to not bring out the shotgun. Draw, you varmints!I don't hesitate to shoot any varmints that try to usurp our food chain. I use low velocity 22's. They hardly make any noise and have an effect similar to a good quality air rifle.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 You're preaching your book. I'm just a bird that sings a one note song. Greg Play Music Johnny could only sing one noteAnd the note he sang was thisAh, poor Johnny one note sang out with gustoAnd just overlorded the placePoor Johnny one note, yelled willy nillyUntil he was blue in the faceFor holding one note was his aceCouldn't hear the brassCouldn't hear the drumHe was in a class, by himself, by gumPoor Johnny one note got in AidaIndeed a great chance to be braveHe took his one note, howled like the north windBrought forth wind that made critics raveWhile Verdi turned round in his graveCouldn't hear the fluteOr the big tromboneEvery one was mute, Johnny stood aloneCats and dogs stopped yappingLions in the zoo, all were jealous of Johnny's big trillThunder claps stopped clappingTraffic ceased its roarAnd they tell us Niagara stood stillHe stopped the train whistles, boat whistlesSteam whistles, cop whistles, all whistles bowed to his skillSing Johnny one note, sing out with gustoAnd just overwhelm all the crowdAh, so sing Johnny one note, out loudSing Johnny one noteSing Johnny one note out loudRead more: Ella Fitzgerald - Johnny One Note Lyrics | MetroLyrics Johnny One Note" was written by Hart, Lorenz/rodgers, Richard.Read more: Ella Fitzgerald - Johnny One Note Lyrics | MetroLyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Johnny could only sing one note......and that one note makes all the difference in Johnny's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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