Wolf DeVoon Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Maybe this matters, maybe accurate newshttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-15/china-says-military-will-stand-and-use-force-if-us-sends-warships-islands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wolf DeVoon Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Aircraft carrier strike group CVN-71 left the ME for SE Asia, operational range of S China Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Normal redeployment?--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Left the Persian Gulf without carrier-based air support, for the first time in years. CVN-71 said to be en route to San Diego home port, but may steam through Spratleys and confront China, who publicly threatened to attack if US ships enter their claimed exclusion zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The number 1 Chinese admiral is said to be dumb and ignorant.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 The number 1 Chinese admiral is said to be dumb and ignorant.Oh, swell. Just what the world needed, confrontation with an idiot in command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The number 1 Chinese admiral is said to be dumb and ignorant.Oh, swell. Just what the world needed, confrontation with an idiot in command.Hey!President O'bama means well...and he is way too smart for us to even understand his decisions...he is no idiot!I love him...he is my hero...Where is my subsidy?A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hey!President O'bama means well...and he is way too smart for us to even understand his decisions...he is no idiot!I love him...he is my hero...Where is my subsidy?A...As we saw in Bin Ladin killing, Obama is led by US professional military instead of leading them, in this case with support from US diplomatic professionals arguing for freedom of the seas. CVN-71 doing a "drive-by" is probably all that USN can provide with sequestration cuts and deferred maintenance. USN is not adequately prepared or equipped for combat with China.It's astounding how deeply the Republican Congress and Obama have cut US military, all three services.Spending cuts have left the U.S. Navy and Marines ill-prepared to deal with a sudden conflict, and continuing reductions may mean ships and troops arrive late to the fight and without training. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/10/us-usa-defense-navy-idUSKBN0M61V520150310In total, the Army will have cut 120,000 soldiers – 21% of the active force. http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/07/09/army-outlines-40000-cuts/29923339/The Air Force’s capacity in terms of number of aircraft has been on a constant downward slope since 1952... the bulk of Air Force capability is nearing the end of its expected life cycle... The F-16, the most numerous platform at 913 aircraft, has consumed 80 percent of its expected life span. The KC-135 comprises 87 percent of Air Force tankers and is over 50 years old. The aircraft’s reliability is at risk... http://index.heritage.org/militarystrength/chapter/us-power/us-air-force/Oh, about your subsidy -- "The federal government has become an entitlements machine. As a day-to-day operation, it devotes more attention and resources to the public transfer of money, goods and services to individual citizens than to any other objective, spending more than for all other ends combined." http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390444914904577619671931313542If you're not on the dole yet, you haven't been trying very hard, bub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Wolf:I was employing Um the Republicans went along with it and we did not drag them out of their chamber and hang them so let's be serious about the US citizen running to Ellsworth with that one collar and telling them to get in line like good citizens...The sequester lowers spending by a total of approximately $1.1 trillion versus pre-sequester levels over the approximately 8-year period from 2013 to 2021. It lowers non-defense discretionary spending (i.e., certain domestic programs) by a range of 7.8% (in 2013) to 5.5% (in 2021) versus pre-sequester amounts, a total of $294 billion. Defense spending would likewise be lowered by 10% (in 2013) to 8.5% (in 2021), a total of $454 billion. Savings in non-defense mandatory spending would total $170 billion, while interest would be lowered by $169 billion.[1] The CBO estimated that sequestration would reduce 2013 economic growth by about 0.6 percentage points (from 2.0% to 1.4% or about $90B) and affect the creation or retention of about 750,000 jobs by year-end.[5] As of May 2013, FY2013 spending ($3.455 trillion) was projected to be lower in an absolute sense than FY2012 spending ($3.537 trillion).[6]In credibly ignorant cuts by an incompetent Republican House so it can be "administered" by a marxist.What could possibly go wrong?A.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The number 1 Chinese admiral is said to be dumb and ignorant.Oh, swell. Just what the world needed, confrontation with an idiot in command.And aggressive. If you're living in the wilderness as a prepper I may have to join you.--Brantbut no closer than 50 miles--that way one bomb can't take us both outdon't worry; I don't like cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 News(Financial Times) The US navy is poised to start freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea in a high-stakes effort to push back against Chinese territorial claims over artificial islands in the disputed waters.In a move that will enrage Beijing, the USS Lassen, a guided-missile destroyer, will sail inside the 12-nautical mile zones of two man-made islands — Subi and Mischief reefs — that China has built in the contested Spratly Island chain. A senior US defence official said it would sail through the area in the early hours of Tuesday morning.Oh shit... checking other sources CVN-71 with attack sub and surface escorts in Singapore.7th Fleet forces in theater http://www.c7f.navy.mil/forces.htmCVN-76 strike force off Korea. They have the Chinese surrounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 News(Financial Times) The US navy is poised to start freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea in a high-stakes effort to push back against Chinese territorial claims over artificial islands in the disputed waters.In a move that will enrage Beijing, the USS Lassen, a guided-missile destroyer, will sail inside the 12-nautical mile zones of two man-made islands — Subi and Mischief reefs — that China has built in the contested Spratly Island chain. A senior US defence official said it would sail through the area in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Hope everyone remembers Richard Widmark in The Bedford Incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf DeVoon Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 from Zero Hedge tonight:Update: According to reports in on Monday evening, the USS Lassen has indeed sailed within 12 nautical miles of China's islands in the Spratlys.As WSJ notes, "an American defense official confirmed Monday that the U.S. Navy ship navigated through the waters around at least one of the land masses to which China lays claim within the Spratly chain of islands in the South China Sea, crossing an area that China maintains is part of its sovereign territory." WSJ also reiterates that this isn't likely to be a one-off event. As noted below, most "experts" believe that in order for this to be effective from a deterrence standpoint, the US will need to step up the patrols, presumably in an effort to prove to Beijing that the Pentagon is "serious", whatever that means in this context. The ball is now squarely in China's court. The PLA has already promised to "stand up and use force" in the event its territorial sovereignty is violated. The question now is whether Beijing will back down and concede that "sovereignty" somehow means something different with regard to the islands than it does with respect to the mainland or whether Xi will stick to his guns (no pun intended) and take a pot shot at a US destroyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyau Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 .China will fight US Navy, rather like the Iranians' bluster over US Naval moves in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 China, if not Iran, has the ability to blow up multiple US aircraft carriers. Surface vessels are essentially obsolete except in limited war senarios involving less than first rate military powers.War is the end state of politics. If misused by the United States as with the Iraq invasion of 2003, it tends to get Orwellian. The greater the passage of time the greater the apparent genius of George O.--Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 China, if not Iran, has the ability to blow up multiple US aircraft carriers. Surface vessels are essentially obsolete except in limited war senarios involving less than first rate military powers.War is the end state of politics. If misused by the United States as with the Iraq invasion of 2003, it tends to get Orwellian. The greater the passage of time the greater the apparent genius of George O.--BrantHistory is written by the victors...The Victors was a compelling 1963 movie about WWII:Carl Foreman wrote, produced and directed the epic. He called it a "personal statement" about the futility of war. Both victor and vanquished are losers.[4]Even though they switched the story line to an American company, rather than a British company to sell in the US, it is a haunting film, with a sublime scene in it with the execution of an American soldier on Christmas Eve, in the snow, stark and cold...beautiful in its ugliness...with Christmas carols in the score of the film.The film slips between Pathé-style newsreel footage showing the conquering heroes abroad for the audience at home, and the grim reality of battlefield brutality and post-conflict ennui. No battle scenes are depicted in the film.The story is told in a series of short vignettes, each having a beginning and an ending in itself, though all are connected to the others, as a series of short stories adding up to a longer one.Atypically of Hollywood interpretations of the Second World War at the time, the depiction of American GIs shows soldiers worn out by battle, weary of conflict and capable of casual cruelty towards outsiders and also to other Americans. In one vignette a group of white American soldiers attack and brutally beat two black American soldiers. Others show American military personnel (star George Peppard) becoming players in the "black market," although Peppard goes back to his unit when he sees them leaving for the front, and Americans and Russians alike exploiting German women sexually.The hostility of German civilians towards their American and Soviet occupiers is also depicted.One of the cinematic high points is the detour of one truckload of GIs out of a convoy, for the express purpose of supplying witnesses to the execution by firing squad of a GI deserter (a scene inspired by the real-life 1945 execution of Pvt. Eddie Slovik). Depicted in a huge, otherwise empty, snow-covered field near a chateau at Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines on Christmas Eve, while the film audience first hears Frank Sinatra singing "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" and then a chorus of "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing", after the fatal shots are fired. This scene is remarkable for its stark, visually extreme imagery, and the non-combat stress and anguish foisted on GIs during a lull in combat. The New York Times film review stated "it stands out in stark and sobering contrast to the other gaudier incidents in the film".[5]The whole film is shot in black and white, and so the black regimented figures of the firing squad and witnesses face the lone man bound to a stake in the midst of a snow-covered plain. The addition of surreal accompanying Christmas music and absence of dialogue make this scene an often cited one. The juxtaposition of saccharine music with a frightful scene was emulated the following year by Stanley Kubrick in Dr. Strangelove, which was also shot in black and white.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victors_%28film%29NY Times Review: http://www.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9501E6DA1F30EF3BBC4851DFB4678388679EDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 That execution was the only one of such by US forces in WWII. Eisenhower decided to let it go forward.That film, of course, is gross distortion. Exploitation of German women by Americans and Russians is in the context of the massive raping carried out by the Russians. I never heard of Americans doing that on that scale. So they made it an American not a British outfit to sell to American audiences? Then the British did the exploiting? The raping?The war in Europe lasted--what--eight months after the Normandy breakout? I'll bet there were a lot of soldiers in the field who weren't worn out and dispirited.The German's hated the Americans. That's why the Americans put up the Berlin Wall. The Germans were fleeing West Germany to get to East Germany draing the population and the Warsaw Pact was a defensive alliance. West German soldiers manned the Wall and shot them and set dogs on those ingrates. In the late 1940s the United States blockaded Berlin and . . .--Brantand the heroic Soviet airlift saved the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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