This Is What We Need To Understand...And Act, With Integrity To Free Our Individual Souls...

[Selene]

A rational anarchist believes that concepts such as "state" and "society" and "government" have no existence save as physically exemplified in the acts of self-responsible individuals. He believes that it is impossible to shift blame, share blame, distribute blame. . . as blame, guilt, responsibility are matters taking place inside human beings singly and nowhere else. But being rational, he knows that not all individuals hold his evaluations, so he tries to live perfectly in an imperfect world. . . aware that his effort will be less than perfect yet undismayed by self-knowledge of self-failure.

It is that f___ing simple.

My heavens, the Federal state is exponentially controlling the individual citizen in America with an oppressive, extra-constitutional administrative state, enforced through the IRS...hmm where have we seen this action before?

A...

[9thdoctor]

"But we can throw rocks at Earth, Man. We will."

[Selene]

"But we can throw rocks at Earth, Man. We will."

Dennis:

If I was planning, I would take over Musk's ship and be able to just let those catapults work for freedom baby!!

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[moralist]

A rational anarchist believes that concepts such as "state" and "society" and "government" have no existence save as physically exemplified in the acts of self-responsible individuals. He believes that it is impossible to shift blame, share blame, distribute blame. . . as blame, guilt, responsibility are matters taking place inside human beings singly and nowhere else. But being rational, he knows that not all individuals hold his evaluations, so he tries to live perfectly in an imperfect world. . . aware that his effort will be less than perfect yet undismayed by self-knowledge of self-failure.

It is that f___ing simple.

My heavens, the Federal state is exponentially controlling the individual citizen in America with an oppressive, extra-constitutional administrative state, enforced through the IRS...hmm where have we seen this action before?

A...

You will see it everywhere where people fail to properly manage their own lives. The opportunistic nature of the state is only a logical consequence of peoples' need for the something-for-nothing illusions it appears to offer them. People getting the government they deserve is a perfect example of Ayn Rand's sanction of the victim. If people lived lives deserving of a better government, they would already have it.

[Selene]

You will see it everywhere where people fail to properly manage their own lives. The opportunistic nature of the state is only a logical consequence of peoples' need for the something-for-nothing illusions it appears to offer them. People getting the government they deserve is a perfect example of Ayn Rand's sanction of the victim. If people lived lives deserving of a better government, they would already have it.

Frankly, I thought that one of Ayn's major contributions to the advancement of the individual was/is the concept of "the sanction of the victim."

Secondly, I believe you stated an excellent image when you opined that a citizen who puts his neck into the government noose cannot complain about rope burns...

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[moralist]

You will see it everywhere where people fail to properly manage their own lives. The opportunistic nature of the state is only a logical consequence of peoples' need for the something-for-nothing illusions it appears to offer them. People getting the government they deserve is a perfect example of Ayn Rand's sanction of the victim. If people lived lives deserving of a better government, they would already have it.

Frankly, I thought that one of Ayn's major contributions to the advancement of the individual was/is the concept of "the sanction of the victim."

Secondly, I believe you stated an excellent image when you opined that a citizen who puts his neck into the government noose cannot complain about rope burns...

A...

Yes... and each individual's own freedom rests upon choosing not to grant that sanction to the government in exchange for the fantasy of what we only ~think~ we will get from it.

This process is completely self inflicted.

In my opinion, the only way we can lose our inalienable rights is by living a dishonorable life that renders us unworthy of them.

[tmj]

I see your point, but technically you can't 'lose' something inalienable.

[moralist]

I see your point, but technically you can't 'lose' something inalienable.

Yes. Inalienable from the outside world.

Only our own foolish actions can prevent our enjoyment of those rights.

"If you closely examine your chains, you will discover they were forged by your own hand."

--moralist

[Brant Gaede]

You will see it everywhere where people fail to properly manage their own lives. The opportunistic nature of the state is only a logical consequence of peoples' need for the something-for-nothing illusions it appears to offer them. People getting the government they deserve is a perfect example of Ayn Rand's sanction of the victim. If people lived lives deserving of a better government, they would already have it.

Frankly, I thought that one of Ayn's major contributions to the advancement of the individual was/is the concept of "the sanction of the victim."

Secondly, I believe you stated an excellent image when you opined that a citizen who puts his neck into the government noose cannot complain about rope burns...

A...

Yes... and each individual's own freedom rests upon choosing not to grant that sanction to the government in exchange for the fantasy of what we only ~think~ we will get from it.

This process is completely self inflicted.

In my opinion, the only way we can lose our inalienable rights is by living a dishonorable life that renders us unworthy of them.

"The sanction of the victim" has a corroborant in "the impotence of evil" in Rand's work, one of her philosophical lynchpins. That is, the power of evil comes from good guy sanction of it. Evil does not create, it destroys. The practical problem with this supposition is good and bad and/or their potential are at least mixed up within any normal human being which of course has to do with free will and morality, etc. Or, a man can sanction his own evil by doing it. Her idea of the perfect, god-like man (Galt) both dressed this idea out and obscured it. While Galt did no wrong qua Objectivism and Roark did wrong qua Objectivism but not Neitzsche, she intended both to be perfect depictions of her perfect ideal man, but while that is great for statues it is quite problematic for literature (as opposed to mere popular fiction).

"Inalienable rights" means from human nature--a need of human nature. They are not "inalienable" under law for law is an artificial albeit human construct that can be put up, posited and modified at will and whim and philosophy or its lack of. Simply and rightfully put, law states if you violate rights you can exercise your rights such as you can from prison. Sin Loi!, punk!

--Brant

[moralist]

"The sanction of the victim" has a corroborant in "the impotence of evil" in Rand's work, one of her philosophical lynchpins. That is, the power of evil comes from good guy sanction of it.

This is one of Ayn Rand's most powerful moral principles. When a good guy sanctions evil he's not so good, but shares the nature of what he condones.

Evil does not create, it destroys.

And in like manner evil does not produce. It only consumes. The trick is living so as to render yourself inedible.

The practical problem with this supposition is good and bad and/or their potential are at least mixed up within any normal human being which of course has to do with free will and morality, etc.

Yes. And that's our challenge in life... to sort ourselves out for our own good.

Or, a man can sanction his own evil by doing it.

Evil does not belong to him. He can only belong to it by becoming its agent.