Ed Hudgins Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Climate Kerfuffle on CosmosBy Edward HudginsMay 23, 2014 -- I’m a big fan of the Cosmos reboot series, just as I was of the Carl Sagan original. But the host Neil deGrasse Tyson recently stumbled very unscientifically when discussing climate change. In the recent Episode 11, entitled “The Immortals,” Tyson muses about a better human future. One highlight: “The last internal combustion engine is placed in a museum as the effects of climate change reverse and diminish.” He adds that, in this better future, “The polar ice caps are restored to the way they were in the nineteenth century.”Climates always change The problem starts with the words “climate change” itself. Until recent years, the concern of Al Gore and the environmental establishment was “global warming.” Their scenario, whether mistaken or not, was that human activities were producing extreme climatic warming that would cause very serious damage to human well-being. Tough government action could slow or even stop that warming. But the Earth’s climate has been changing on its own since the Earth has had an atmosphere, with extreme swings over periods of millennia and even millions of years. The notion of stopping the climate from changing at all is, frankly, ludicrous. There is not even rudimentary thinking about how to stop the climate in its tracks, even if it were considered desirable. Why does Tyson love the cold? Further, Tyson’s suggestion that having the ice caps—and presumably the climate—in their nineteenth century state would be optimal for human life and well-being is as arbitrary an assumption as one will find. Why? The early part of that century was part of the “Little Ice Age.” Many considered it too cold. And into the 1980s, the concern of many scientists was that another ice age could plague the planet.If we want to freeze the climate—no pun intended—into some ideal state, why not aim for the warming period in the early Middle Ages, when wine grapes were grown in usually too-chilly England and Greenland was actually green enough to grow crops? Commanding the tides King Cnut of England, during that period, is said to have taken his courtiers to the shore and commanded the tide not to come in. It did come in, of course, allowing King Cnut to make his point that there are limits to the power of secular rulers in the face of nature. It might well be possible for humans to do seemingly superhuman things in the future, for example, giving the planet Mars a breathable atmosphere. But there are forces of nature that humans will likely never control. Tyson must know, as many scientists have pointed out, that solar activity has a major effect on the Earth’s climate. Perhaps some super-evolved creatures in the future will be able to engineer whole stars. But while such creatures might arise from us, they will not be human. And Tyson is not speaking about some distant science fiction future. He speaks of the “scientific consensus that we’re destabilizing our climate” and says “Our civilization seems to be in the grip of denial, a kind of paralysis. There’s a disconnect between what we know and what we do.” Meaning that we should all follow the Al Gore action plan of abandoning our fossil fuels, the basis of our civilization and prosperity, in the name of a hopeless effort to create a climate future that might not even be desirable. Tyson rightly tries to project a human future of limitless possibilities. But he could better advance that future by bringing critical thinking rather than fuzzy assumptions to the global warming/climate change issue.----Hudgins is director of advocacy and a senior scholar at The Atlas Society.For further information: *Edward Hudgins, “Cosmos Reboot and Sagan’s Legacy.” March 10, 2014. *Edward Hudgins, “Cosmos: A Voyage Across The Final Frontier.” July/August 2007.*William R Thomas, “Why Ecology Requires Economics.” April 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 From a purely technical point of view which doom of Planet Earth is easier for humans to bring about? The Venus doom? We turn Earth into another Venus . Or the Ice Age Doom or Snowball Earth doom. I think it is much easier to bring about another ice age. All we need to do is produce a lot of clouds that will not only block light (and heat) from coming in, but reflect a lot of sunlight back out into space. The weather gets colder. More snow cover reflects light which makes the earth colder and we have a vicious positive feedback loop in no time flat. We could enter another ice age in less than a century of cold winter, lots of snow and icea formation. The history of this planet since "snowball earth" about 500,000,000 to 600,000,000 years ago shows there is a greater tendency to go cold than to overheat. Dress warm now.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Ed,We are doing one of those interminable discussions with an AWG apologist elsewhere on OL.Here is one peer-reviewed article I think you might be interested in that I just posted over there.Philosophically speaking of course, since it exposes the foundation underpinning opinions like those of Tyson. After all, it's peer-reviewed. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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