Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yesterday Joe Klein said what happened in Benghazi isn't really an issue in tonight's debate.Joe Klein: Benghazi Consulate Controversy 'The October Mirage - It Really Isn't An Issue'There's a video of him saying it at the link (it's only a minute or so long).You can't make this stuff up.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Campbell Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 And here's a solid piece on the Watergate-style political dynamics:http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331122/libyagate-john-o-sullivanRobert Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Campbell Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Michael,No, you can't.I had to watch the clip just to verify for myself that Joe Klein could be such a fool.Robert Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Biden, Hillary Clinton, Panetta and O'bama should be indicted if this is true."Retired CIA officer Gary Berntsen believes help could have come much sooner. He commanded CIA counter-terrorism missions targeting Osama bin Laden and led the team that responded after bombings of the U.S. Embassy in East Africa.'You find a way to make this happen,' Berntsen says. 'There isn't a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died.'"http://www.cbsnews.c...g-libya-attack/If Glenn Beck's view is correct - that the attack was about gun running deals gone bad - the administration may not have wanted the ambassador to survive the attack. He was the go between man getting arms from Libya to Syrian Muslim Brotherhood andal Qaeda fighters. Turkey provided the transport. The Turkish representative left just before the attack started.The fact that they left all the papertrail of records there for weeks to let the locals pick through it indicates they didn't want the human or papertrail to survive.Expendable loose ends of a failed policy.DennisGlenn Beck gathers more information yesterday and talks about it again today. Indeed the administration watched live from video, drone feeds, and listened on the phone as people on the ground were killed. They had at least 3 sources of assets that could have come to rescue them - one in time to save all the deaths but someone(s) in the administration made the decision to let them die. A CIA officer interviewed by Beck commented that she was not aware of any similar case in history where diplomats where hung out to die without any attempt to help.Loose ends left to die.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Glenn Beck this morning:Thomas Pickering to investigate Benghazi attack - a lobbist for Iran, supports Iran having nuclear energy, connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. Yup going to white wash corruption at the top.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Folks, think about this when you think that O'bama is a "nice guy," my belief is that he is not.“When [Obama] came over to our little area” at Andrew Air Force Base, says Woods, “he kind of just mumbled, you know, ‘I’m sorry.’ His face was looking at me, but his eyes were looking over my shoulder like he could not look me in the eye. And it was not a sincere, ‘I’m really sorry, you know, that your son died,’ but it was totally insincere, more of whining type, ‘I’m sorry.’”Woods says that shaking President Obama’s hands at his son’s memorial service was “like shaking hands with a dead fish.”“It just didn’t feel right,” he says of his encounter with the commander in chief. “And now that it’s coming out that apparently the White House situation room was watching our people die in real time, as this was happening,” Woods says, he wants answers on what happened—and why there was no apparent effort to save his son’s life.http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/father-slain-seal-who-made-decision-not-save-my-son_657782.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Campbell Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Adam,It's been obvious for a long time that Barack Obama isn't a nice guy.But this may be finally becoming better known. Mitt Romney's likability ratings now exceed his.Robert Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Campbell Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 More about the failure to send help on the night of the Benghazi attacks:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/26/cia_denied_request_for_help_during_benghazi_consulate_attack.htmlRobert Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 More about the failure to send help on the night of the Benghazi attacks:http://www.realclear...ate_attack.htmlRobert CampbellAnyone or anything that might interfere with Obama's re-election are expendable.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Today's Meaghan Kelly interview with Wood's father...http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/26/i-do-not-appreciate-cowardice-and-i-do-not-appreciate-lies-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-libya-attack-reacts-to-learning-his-son-disobeyed-orders-to-save-fellow-americans/These are impeachable offenses. i also believe that they are criminal and indictable.O'bama, Clinton and Panetta have no honor or integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Here's a look from inside the machine--not the administrative machine, but the military and foreign services machine. It just popped up on an RSS feed I have going. the guy providing the information is a caller to Rush Limbaugh's show. Absolutely fascinating. http://www.youtube.com/embed/lljKmmZyCiw?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> It's going to keep getting harder and harder for Obama to spin this thing. I think the tipping point has been reached--if not so, then very close to being reached. There's a public response coming and it's not just from the conservative side. I, also, don't mean the election. That response is going to be ugly when the unstoppable momentum kicks into high gear and Obama better be grooming one hell of a scapegoat to take a hard fall. Otherwise... (I'll stop there for now. I don't want to get my hopes up to high. ) Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Michael:I heard the call live and he was truly worried about his career. However, he thought it was more important to get the truth out like any patriot would be.A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The CIA spokesman said the CIA did not turn down any requests for help - indicating they are not ready to be thrown under thebus. It is clear that Obama with Panetta and Hillary Clinton in the room pulled the plug and left them to die then fabricated astory to cover the decision. Panetta is now lying about the options he had trying to cover his ass. All three conspired andall three need to go. Regardless of the election outcome the House needs to start an impeachment investigation.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well it didn't take long for the bad seed to show his colors again. While the rest of Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the Internet areabuzz with a scandal bigger than Watergate - during a week full of new devestating revelations right before the most historicelection in 3 generations - our host Chris Wallace thinks his Sunday show should be devoted to the weather and the horserace aspects of the upcoming election. At least half of the show should have been an update of the growing scandal andthe whistleblowers coming out of the closet one after another.Yup Chris Wallace is no damn good - another coverup artist for the mainstream media.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well it didn't take long for the bad seed to show his colors again. While the rest of Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the Internet areabuzz with a scandal bigger than Watergate - during a week full of new devestating revelations right before the most historicelection in 3 generations - our host Chris Wallace thinks his Sunday show should be devoted to the weather and the horserace aspects of the upcoming election. At least half of the show should have been an update of the growing scandal andthe whistleblowers coming out of the closet one after another.Yup Chris Wallace is no damn good - another coverup artist for the mainstream media.DennisFinally 18 minutes into the broadcast he asks the questions about Libya, as expected the two Democrats pulled a weasel andwant all discussion delayed till after the election. Sen. Ron Johnson from Wisconsin did a good short summary of the situationafter Wallace let the Democrats eat up 2/3rds of the time on their spin. Overall Wallace gets a C- though he got the storyin - his preview of the show didn't mention it at all and it was not covered enough so many viewers may have switchedchannels or gone to the Internet looking for real news.Doing my job - keeping my eye on Chris Wallace like a cockroach egg under a microscope.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well it didn't take long for the bad seed to show his colors again. While the rest of Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the Internet areabuzz with a scandal bigger than Watergate - during a week full of new devestating revelations right before the most historicelection in 3 generations - our host Chris Wallace thinks his Sunday show should be devoted to the weather and the horserace aspects of the upcoming election. At least half of the show should have been an update of the growing scandal andthe whistleblowers coming out of the closet one after another.Yup Chris Wallace is no damn good - another coverup artist for the mainstream media.DennisFinally 18 minutes into the broadcast he asks the questions about Libya, as expected the two Democrats pulled a weasel andwant all discussion delayed till after the election. Sen. Ron Johnson from Wisconsin did a good short summary of the situationafter Wallace let the Democrats eat up 2/3rds of the time on their spin. Overall Wallace gets a C- though he got the storyin - his preview of the show didn't mention it at all and it was not covered enough so many viewers may have switchedchannels or gone to the Internet looking for real news.Doing my job - keeping my eye on Chris Wallace like a cockroach egg under a microscope.DennisDuring the panel segment Carl Rove pointed out that Obama had to have made the call, Brit Hume seemed uninformed on sometechnical aspects of what could have been done but did a good job on pointing out how the mainstream media entirely failed.It is clear they should have had a technical intelligence-military expert either being interviewed or on the panel. Overall Wallacegets a D+. The subject was brought up but used wrong people to talk to and didn't spend enough time on what is a huge newsstory. I thought I was going to have to give Wallace an F- minus at first but he pulled out a D+, perhaps their is still hope forthe cockroach egg under the microscope.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well it didn't take long for the bad seed to show his colors again. While the rest of Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the Internet areabuzz with a scandal bigger than Watergate - during a week full of new devestating revelations right before the most historicelection in 3 generations - our host Chris Wallace thinks his Sunday show should be devoted to the weather and the horserace aspects of the upcoming election. At least half of the show should have been an update of the growing scandal andthe whistleblowers coming out of the closet one after another.Yup Chris Wallace is no damn good - another coverup artist for the mainstream media.DennisFinally 18 minutes into the broadcast he asks the questions about Libya, as expected the two Democrats pulled a weasel andwant all discussion delayed till after the election. Sen. Ron Johnson from Wisconsin did a good short summary of the situationafter Wallace let the Democrats eat up 2/3rds of the time on their spin. Overall Wallace gets a C- though he got the storyin - his preview of the show didn't mention it at all and it was not covered enough so many viewers may have switchedchannels or gone to the Internet looking for real news.Doing my job - keeping my eye on Chris Wallace like a cockroach egg under a microscope.DennisDuring the panel segment Carl Rove pointed out that Obama had to have made the call, Brit Hume seemed uninformed on sometechnical aspects of what could have been done but did a good job on pointing out how the mainstream media entirely failed.It is clear they should have had a technical intelligence-military expert either being interviewed or on the panel. Overall Wallacegets a D+. The subject was brought up but used wrong people to talk to and didn't spend enough time on what is a huge newsstory. I thought I was going to have to give Wallace an F- minus at first but he pulled out a D+, perhaps their is still hope forthe cockroach egg under the microscope.DennisOops Wallace's grade moves to D-, Wallace and Hume both asked if the drones were armed or not, Beck already discoveredand published that they were not armed. Wallace created an opening for the administration when information was alreadyavailable. If he did that on purpose instead of ignorance his grade moves to F+.Dennishttp://www.theblaze.com/stories/retired-lt-col-my-sources-say-obama-was-in-the-room-watching-benghazi-attack-happen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well it didn't take long for the bad seed to show his colors again. While the rest of Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the Internet areabuzz with a scandal bigger than Watergate - during a week full of new devestating revelations right before the most historicelection in 3 generations - our host Chris Wallace thinks his Sunday show should be devoted to the weather and the horserace aspects of the upcoming election. At least half of the show should have been an update of the growing scandal andthe whistleblowers coming out of the closet one after another.Yup Chris Wallace is no damn good - another coverup artist for the mainstream media.DennisFinally 18 minutes into the broadcast he asks the questions about Libya, as expected the two Democrats pulled a weasel andwant all discussion delayed till after the election. Sen. Ron Johnson from Wisconsin did a good short summary of the situationafter Wallace let the Democrats eat up 2/3rds of the time on their spin. Overall Wallace gets a C- though he got the storyin - his preview of the show didn't mention it at all and it was not covered enough so many viewers may have switchedchannels or gone to the Internet looking for real news.Doing my job - keeping my eye on Chris Wallace like a cockroach egg under a microscope.DennisDuring the panel segment Carl Rove pointed out that Obama had to have made the call, Brit Hume seemed uninformed on sometechnical aspects of what could have been done but did a good job on pointing out how the mainstream media entirely failed.It is clear they should have had a technical intelligence-military expert either being interviewed or on the panel. Overall Wallacegets a D+. The subject was brought up but used wrong people to talk to and didn't spend enough time on what is a huge newsstory. I thought I was going to have to give Wallace an F- minus at first but he pulled out a D+, perhaps their is still hope forthe cockroach egg under the microscope.DennisOops Wallace's grade moves to D-, Wallace and Hume both asked if the drones were armed or not, Beck already discoveredand published that they were not armed. Wallace created an opening for the administration when information was alreadyavailable. If he did that on purpose instead of ignorance his grade moves to F+.Dennishttp://www.theblaze....-attack-happen/The information was available while the show was airing - perhaps not when taped. Things are changing so fast theyshould have had a news update at the end of the show to correct information since it was taped. Wallace now getsa "D" since he has time today to correct the error of his question before the 1 PM Cental airing of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well it didn't take long for the bad seed to show his colors again. While the rest of Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the Internet areabuzz with a scandal bigger than Watergate - during a week full of new devestating revelations right before the most historicelection in 3 generations - our host Chris Wallace thinks his Sunday show should be devoted to the weather and the horserace aspects of the upcoming election. At least half of the show should have been an update of the growing scandal andthe whistleblowers coming out of the closet one after another.Yup Chris Wallace is no damn good - another coverup artist for the mainstream media.DennisFinally 18 minutes into the broadcast he asks the questions about Libya, as expected the two Democrats pulled a weasel andwant all discussion delayed till after the election. Sen. Ron Johnson from Wisconsin did a good short summary of the situationafter Wallace let the Democrats eat up 2/3rds of the time on their spin. Overall Wallace gets a C- though he got the storyin - his preview of the show didn't mention it at all and it was not covered enough so many viewers may have switchedchannels or gone to the Internet looking for real news.Doing my job - keeping my eye on Chris Wallace like a cockroach egg under a microscope.DennisDuring the panel segment Carl Rove pointed out that Obama had to have made the call, Brit Hume seemed uninformed on sometechnical aspects of what could have been done but did a good job on pointing out how the mainstream media entirely failed.It is clear they should have had a technical intelligence-military expert either being interviewed or on the panel. Overall Wallacegets a D+. The subject was brought up but used wrong people to talk to and didn't spend enough time on what is a huge newsstory. I thought I was going to have to give Wallace an F- minus at first but he pulled out a D+, perhaps their is still hope forthe cockroach egg under the microscope.DennisOops Wallace's grade moves to D-, Wallace and Hume both asked if the drones were armed or not, Beck already discoveredand published that they were not armed. Wallace created an opening for the administration when information was alreadyavailable. If he did that on purpose instead of ignorance his grade moves to F+.Dennishttp://www.theblaze....-attack-happen/The information was available while the show was airing - perhaps not when taped. Things are changing so fast theyshould have had a news update at the end of the show to correct information since it was taped. Wallace now getsa "D" since he has time today to correct the error of his question before the 1 PM Cental airing of the show.Obama interrupted the 1 PM Central Time replay of Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace [for a FEMA weather report]right at the part of the panel discussion where Carl Rove says that Obama had to have been there seeing video in realtime and made the call to abandon them to die. Well played. I wonder if a similar weather report will come during the5 PM replay.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Mr. Newt's astute statement about this despicable failure of a President is:"This is not about politics. This is about a huge national security issue that affects all of us and there was a shocking breakdown, operationally, not to have the security there in the first place. And then not to respond to these guys, in their pleas for help for 7 hours, during a firefight. It’s unbelievable and now, we are hearing that the president of the United States, based on his own words, issued a directive immediately after he found out about the firefight, saying that he wanted to be sure those people on the ground were safe and they were getting what they needed. It didn't happen. This means either that the president's order was not followed, which would be a breakdown in terms of the White House procedure, or, it means the order wasn’t issued. We need to find out about this, it is not about politics, it is a very serious situation. After the fact, of course, there’s also been a lot of confusion about what happened and why it happened."http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/republicans-tee-libya_658031.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Mr. Newt's astute statement about this despicable failure of a President is:"This is not about politics. This is about a huge national security issue that affects all of us and there was a shocking breakdown, operationally, not to have the security there in the first place. And then not to respond to these guys, in their pleas for help for 7 hours, during a firefight. It’s unbelievable and now, we are hearing that the president of the United States, based on his own words, issued a directive immediately after he found out about the firefight, saying that he wanted to be sure those people on the ground were safe and they were getting what they needed. It didn't happen. This means either that the president's order was not followed, which would be a breakdown in terms of the White House procedure, or, it means the order wasn’t issued. We need to find out about this, it is not about politics, it is a very serious situation. After the fact, of course, there’s also been a lot of confusion about what happened and why it happened."http://www.weeklysta...bya_658031.htmlOur Fearless Leader is guilty of criminal negligence. In a military organization anyone who so acted would be busted from his leadership rank. At the very least.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennislmay Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Mr. Newt's astute statement about this despicable failure of a President is:"This is not about politics. This is about a huge national security issue that affects all of us and there was a shocking breakdown, operationally, not to have the security there in the first place. And then not to respond to these guys, in their pleas for help for 7 hours, during a firefight. It’s unbelievable and now, we are hearing that the president of the United States, based on his own words, issued a directive immediately after he found out about the firefight, saying that he wanted to be sure those people on the ground were safe and they were getting what they needed. It didn't happen. This means either that the president's order was not followed, which would be a breakdown in terms of the White House procedure, or, it means the order wasn’t issued. We need to find out about this, it is not about politics, it is a very serious situation. After the fact, of course, there’s also been a lot of confusion about what happened and why it happened."http://www.weeklysta...bya_658031.htmlOur Fearless Leader is guilty of criminal negligence. In a military organization anyone who so acted would be busted from his leadership rank. At the very least.Ba'al ChatzafAt the very least - more probably some time in Kansas to think things over.Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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