President O'bama Stated He Would Employ Executive Action Concerning Immigration: Violates Separation Of Powers Doctrine - How Should Congress Respond?


Selene

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The arrogant smirk of power...a face and attitude that is pure evil...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-defends-it-doesnt-tear-constitution_819629.html

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While everything you guys have said is absolutely true...

...it's easy to become fixated just on the liberal bureaucrats and their sock puppets...

...while forgetting that the people gave them the power to smirk.

While America will never become a better nation unless enough people live better lives....

...each individual does have the opportunity to make America a better nation for themselves. :smile:

Greg

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While everything you guys have said is absolutely true...

...it's easy to become fixated just on the liberal bureaucrats and their sock puppets...

...while forgetting that the people gave them the power to smirk.

While America will never become a better nation unless enough people live better lives....

...each individual does have the opportunity to make America a better nation for themselves. :smile:

Greg

Wow Greg, how refreshing a point you are making.

However, somehow it sounds so familiar.

We got the mantra.

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Here are the Democratic talking points that went out to the "troops."

The White House takes on the idea of amnesty and more in talking points sent to Democratic Congressional offices, according to a Hill source who shared them with BuzzFeed News.

The talking points touch on legal authority and efforts to defund President Obama’s imminent executive actions on immigration.

Read them here:

Talking Points: Immigration Accountability
November 19, 2014

Today, the President announced that he will address the nation tomorrow night from the White House, and on Friday he will travel to Del Sol High School in Las Vegas. In both speeches, the President will detail action he is taking to help fix our broken immigration system by increasing accountability and ensuring everyone plays by the same set of rules.

The actions the President will take this week are about securing the border, holding undocumented immigrants accountable and ensuring everyone plays by the same rules.

Acting with legal authority, the President’s Immigration Accountability Executive Actions are an important step to fix our broken immigration system.

The executive actions crack down on illegal immigration at the border, prioritize deporting felons not families, and require certain undocumented immigrants to pass a criminal background check and pay taxes.

These are common sense steps, but only Congress can finish the job. As the President acts, he’ll continue to work with Congress on a comprehensive, bipartisan bill—like the one passed by the Senate more than a year ago—that can replace these actions and fix the whole system.

Over more than half a century, every president—Democratic or Republican—has used his legal authority to act on immigration. President Obama is now taking another common sense step.

On amnesty…

Taxes and background checks aren’t amnesty. That’s accountability. Doing nothing—that’s amnesty.

We need to focus on deporting felons, not families; criminals, not children.

On legal authority…

Every President for more than half a century, both Democrats and Republicans, has taken executive action on immigration.

The President’s actions are temporary. House Republicans need to do their job and pass the bipartisan Senate bill to provide a permanent fix.

On funding or shutdown threats…

Republicans are blocking funding to conduct millions of background checks.

Another Republican Shutdown, but this time over collecting taxes from undocumented immigrants.

Buckle up, here come the Redcoats once again. Only this time the "red" is in their minds and souls.

THE REDS ARE COMING!!!!

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Amnesty for five million low-quality, religious, altruistic, socialist, racist, anti-American, ungrateful parasites who promise to take out via public services and welfare benefits far more than they ever put in via taxes. How does this help the country?

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Amnesty for five million low-quality, religious, altruistic, socialist, racist, anti-American, ungrateful parasites who promise to take out via public services and welfare benefitlis far more than they ever put in via taxes. How does this help the country?

We need immigrants. What we don't need is Welfare.

The U.S. is on the thin edge of not maintaining its population through natural increase. Many European nations have already passed that threshold. Keep in mind that Immigrants have help keep our pot boiling Think of Nikola Tesla, born in Serbia. Or Albert Einstein or Janos von Neuman. Without gifted immigrants the U.S. would have gone to squash rot in the 19 th century.

Ba'al Chatzaf

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Amnesty for five million low-quality, religious, altruistic, socialist, racist, anti-American, ungrateful parasites who promise to take out via public services and welfare benefitlis far more than they ever put in via taxes. How does this help the country?

We need immigrants. What we don't need is Welfare.

The U.S. is on the thin edge of not maintaining its population through natural increase. Many European nations have already passed that threshold. Keep in mind that Immigrants have help keep our pot boiling Think of Nikola Tesla, born in Serbia. Or Albert Einstein or Janos von Neuman. Without gifted immigrants the U.S. would have gone to squash rot in the 19 th century.

Ba'al Chatzaf

So, it's not so much "gifted" immigrants as immigrants who generously reproduce to avoid a demographic nightmare such as Japan's. That would include Catholic South and Central Americans and Arabs or northern African Muslims who are reproducing like crazy right now in France, many living in self-policed ghettos the legal police are afraid to enter.

--Brant

think twice

(Einstein basically retired here as a Nazi refugee after doing most of his work in Europe)

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Amnesty for five million low-quality, religious, altruistic, socialist, racist, anti-American, ungrateful parasites who promise to take out via public services and welfare benefits far more than they ever put in via taxes. How does this help the country?

This generalization is just flat out wrong and you should either back it up with facts, or, change the way you phrased it.

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Amnesty for five million low-quality, religious, altruistic, socialist, racist, anti-American, ungrateful parasites who promise to take out via public services and welfare benefits far more than they ever put in via taxes. How does this help the country?

I live in California and work construction so I'm around Mexicans all the time... and that gives me a different perspective. On the whole they're decent hard working guys. :smile:

Greg

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Agreed Greg.

Cubans

Phililpinos

Peruvians

Jamaicans

Nigerians

I have worked with all of these folks and they are fine hardworking folks.

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Altho' it's hard to generalize, prior to the nightmarish Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 America's immigrants were mostly high-quality, entrepreneurial types. Since then, it's been the opposite. And the United States has been simply transformed. Look at the demographics. I think the current illegal immigrants are even worse for the country. And they and their citizen offspring heavily vote anti-freedom and anti-capitalism; their political ideals are mostly socialism and Big Brother.

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..., prior to the nightmarish Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 America's immigrants were mostly high-quality, entrepreneurial types.

Your statement above exposes how ignorant you are about the make up of immigration prior to about 1925...certainly before 1910 or so.

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Selene -- That Milton Friedman video in post #42 seems to emphatically agree with me. The 1960s "Great Society" expansion of the Welfare State and the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 combine to produce low-quality immigrants which radically degrade the quality of America.

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Selene -- That Milton Friedman video in post #42 seems to emphatically agree with me. The 1960s "Great Society" expansion of the Welfare State and the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 combine to produce low-quality immigrants which radically degrade the quality of America.

Whatever "the quality of America" is. I think it's partially a moralistic, imperialistic and productive culture that likes to beat and squeeze the shit out of people turning more and more on itself. Low-quality immigrants become high quality citizens unless they run into the welfare nanny state. No work, no eat.

--Brant

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Selene -- That Milton Friedman video in post #42 seems to emphatically agree with me. The 1960s "Great Society" expansion of the Welfare State and the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 combine to produce low-quality immigrants which radically degrade the quality of America.

You are excellent at selective retention.

That was not where you and I disagree.

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