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      Major Update to OL (please click to open)   02/09/2016

      Sorry for the inconvenience, but we had to update OL and there have been some serious changes made by IPB. The real bad news is that they had to merge User Names and Display Names. This meant that I had to choose between bad and bad. I opted to keep the log-on information the same, so you can get on OL like you always did, but now your User Name is displayed. If your User Name and Display Name were the same, you will not feel the change. If they were different, you are probably irritated right now. I will figure out how you can change this so you can revert to the Display Name you used before if you like, however this may entail a change in how you log-on. The good news is that OL is now searchable from the very beginning. This means all the old posts from the A-Team in Objectivism (and everybody else) will finally show up when you search for something. I will keep changing this announcement as we adapt to these new changes. It's a pain, I know, but after looking around the backend for a bit, I believe the benefits will far, far outweigh the current irritation. They changed things in a hamhanded way and I don't like that, but I can't do anything about it. Benefit-wise, they actually did a good job, so please bear with us. In addition to this change, many good things are coming over time. You are the reason OL exists and I am sorry you have to go through this. Think of it like birth pangs... (All right, all right, that's forcing it.  ) Michael
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caroljane

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Good for Ben Affleck and good movie. But you do know it is fiction, not history, right? It was Ken Taylor, not the CIA, who hid the Americans and organized their escape.

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I moved this from the Articles section to the Movies section.

The opening post needs a little more filler to become an article.

:smile:

Michael

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I thought the movie more or less sucked, and quit at the halfway mark.

It was bad enough to live through the 70's, so seeing their aftermath on the big screen was unpleasant and too much the uphill battle....

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Good for Ben Affleck and good movie. But you do know it is fiction, not history, right? It was Ken Taylor, not the CIA, who hid the Americans and organized their escape.

It is partly fictional. Wikipedia has a section about the historical accuracy.

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Yes, the fictional part is that Menendez (who was in Tehran for a day and a half) "led" the operation. He was a minor player despite his later selfglorification. As noted in Wiki, it was 90% Taylor.

Love the part about giving Canada credit "for diplomatic reasons." Sure, the CIA always give other countries credit for heartwarming successes, and take the blame for sorry-ass messes, for "diplomatic reasons".

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Yes, the fictional part is that Menendez (who was in Tehran for a day and a half) "led" the operation. He was a minor player despite his later selfglorification. As noted in Wiki, it was 90% Taylor.

Love the part about giving Canada credit "for diplomatic reasons." Sure, the CIA always give other countries credit for heartwarming successes, and take the blame for sorry-ass messes, for "diplomatic reasons".

The Discovery Channel had a show about this incident last night (link). The link has only some excerpts. I don't know if it will be re-aired or not. If Mendez was only in Tehran a day and a half, that does not imply he was a minor player. And giving Canadian ambassador Ken Taylor credit "for diplomatic reasons" sounds plausible to me. Why? Giving credit to the CIA at the time might have endangered the lives of the other hostages (52 Americans) at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

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The inaugural Canadian Screen Awards aired last night with Martin Short as host (better than Seth MacFarlane was imho)

Marty mentioned that he had flown in on Air Canada, or as Ben Affleck would say, American Airlines.

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