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      Major Update to OL (please click to open)   02/09/2016

      Sorry for the inconvenience, but we had to update OL and there have been some serious changes made by IPB. The real bad news is that they had to merge User Names and Display Names. This meant that I had to choose between bad and bad. I opted to keep the log-on information the same, so you can get on OL like you always did, but now your User Name is displayed. If your User Name and Display Name were the same, you will not feel the change. If they were different, you are probably irritated right now. I will figure out how you can change this so you can revert to the Display Name you used before if you like, however this may entail a change in how you log-on. The good news is that OL is now searchable from the very beginning. This means all the old posts from the A-Team in Objectivism (and everybody else) will finally show up when you search for something. I will keep changing this announcement as we adapt to these new changes. It's a pain, I know, but after looking around the backend for a bit, I believe the benefits will far, far outweigh the current irritation. They changed things in a hamhanded way and I don't like that, but I can't do anything about it. Benefit-wise, they actually did a good job, so please bear with us. In addition to this change, many good things are coming over time. You are the reason OL exists and I am sorry you have to go through this. Think of it like birth pangs... (All right, all right, that's forcing it.  ) Michael


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  1. Underground Objectivist Shock-Metal. "Hello world. Hello brave new world. Meet your unintended consequence."

  2. Atheists Don't Have No Songs

    It is, and you didn't. - John X Smith
  3. Atheists Don't Have No Songs

    If songs were "group chants", then individualists would not like any songs about anything. But they're not "group chants" in the first place. Even when an entire audience sings them along with the band, it's simply a value those people have in common - which is why they all ended up at that same concert. Just as we ended up on this Objectivist forum. But yes, there is something deeper behind the lack of atheist and capitalist songs. On atheism: artists create art about what is important to them, and since "God" is extremely important to believers, there is always a lot of religious art and music. But atheists believe in the nonexistence of "God", and nonexistence isn't art-worthy. You can't very effectively write a pro-nonexistence song lyric, because it would stand for nothing. But you can write an anti-religion song, which is a basic protest song that stands against something.You can also put my favorite twist on the subject: rather than stand for nothing or against something, you write a pro-individualist song and stand for something. Which also stands against the other thing as a corollary. I think that's the best of all worlds, and as someone already said, Sinatra's "My Way" is probably a good example. On capitalism: I can say from my own experience as would-be inventor of Objectivist Shock-metal, that the absence of pro-capitalism songs is pure social conditioning. For one, we as a species are generally programmed by our envy-driven victimizers to believe that money is evil. For two, we as artists are programmed - and with the justification of countless examples - to believe that money brings the death of art through compromise. And for three, even if we avoid the first two, the fact remains that business as such is very dry and, much like atheism, is not art-worthy. But also like atheism, you can put twists on it. Well, in theory you can. It's even harder than you think. I have already failed once on it, and I can't think of anyone else even trying. So now I guess I have to do it, huh.... - John X Smith
  4. Objectivist Punk

    Thank you for posting that. I'm developing quite an interest in Resistance Art. :-) $
  5. Objectivist Punk

    Adam: yeah, Chad and his guys might indeed make it fly. They have an album on iTunes now, and they're on the forefront of a growing movement of Obj-pop. No reason the nihilists should have all the powerful music, eh? I came here browsing for like-minded musicians to test-market my own (embryonic) idea: Objectivist Shock-metal (making rock-n-roll dangerous again, www.myspace.com/voxliberorum). My stuff is NOT public-ready, since I'm just a drummer still doing intra-band concept proofs of my songs and such. But I couldn't resist jumping into this thread. Chad: Glad to see you're doing what you're doing. I sent you a MySpace mail. $