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  2. Wolf DeVoon

    Number of people in Atlantis

    Not what I had in mind. Formation of the Federal Reserve and suspension of gold standard caused a global crisis before, during, and after WWI. Two little excerpts from Wikipedia:
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  4. jts

    rant about North Korea

    So far as I know it was just pain, no deformity of knuckles or very little. That was in the 1980s. I didn't buy all her groceries, just most, for me and her both. I bought what I wanted, mostly fruits and veggies, and she accepted it. I tried to suggest to her that the diet had nothing to do with the vanishing of the pain but she was convinced the diet did it.
  5. Peter

    Number of people in Atlantis

    I am so sorry to hear one of Barbara Brandon’s favorites has died: Charles Krauthammer. I really thought he was exceptional too. Government is an illusion, Wolf? I will be voting for the county illusion this month. Debate! Debate! Debate! Wolf and Ghs. Just kidding. I saw the Atlas Society is going to have a debate between Adam Smith and Ayn Rand. So, the prelim could be . . .
  6. Highway robbery. High above me. Highjacking. Highlanders. Highbrows. No smokey the dope. No eat’a the brownie. But don’t give up hope. You still make me frowny. Peter First class, fancy free, she's high societyShe's got the best of everythingWhy could a guy like me ever really offer?She's perfect as she can be, why should I even bother, ah haCause she's so highHigh above me, she's so lovelyShe's so highLike Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, or AphroditeShe's so highHigh above me
  7. caroljane

    rant about North Korea

    Why not? This was your mother for heavens sakes, you bought all her groceries. Did you not notice if her knuckles unknotted and her fingers slimmed back down?
  8. jts

    rant about North Korea

    Dunno.
  9. caroljane

    Number of people in Atlantis

    Interesting. I stuck at "If the American government had disbanded in 1910, the problem of Adolph Hitler would not have arisen." Very breezy dismissal of the other major variables in the arms buildup to WWI. I assume you mean that Germany would have won that war without American aiding the Allies. It is in some ways a more attractive alternative to Hitler, but in a German victory my grandfather would likely have been killed so I would not exist, so I am prejudiced. Alternative history is terrifically enjoyable in fiction and nothing in reasonable argument. .Whether government exists is a semantic exercise you've constructed. Does a landlord exist? Skip the rent and find out.
  10. Wolf DeVoon

    Number of people in Atlantis

    Hogeye was kind enough to archive it. http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/library/GovernmentQuack-DeVoon.html This excerpt was quoted about a thousand times: "Government does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms."
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  13. caroljane

    Number of people in Atlantis

    OK, I'll bite, in what sense is it an illusion? Do you mean that if at any given moment, the populace devolved into resistance and riot, the mechanisms of government would cease, proving that they never had the power to govern? Or what?
  14. Wolf DeVoon

    Number of people in Atlantis

    An excellent reason never to listen to George. U.S. v Butler struck down FDR's Agricultural Adjustment Act. Reversing Butler would grant Congress infinite power. Treasury Secretary Hamilton never said anything about general welfare. He advanced the doctrine of implied powers for a government to sustain itself. Secretary of State Jefferson argued there was no explicit power to charter a bank, and the matter was settled by George Washington. "General welfare" never existed as a grant of power because the Preamble was held not to be law (overbroad and undefinable) until Helvering v Davis, 301 U.S. 619, reversed a previous decision and upheld Social Security as a broad constitutional prerogative of Congress to spend money. The most horrible and lasting damage was done in U.S. v Carolene Products. Moving on to Altantis, there is no God given or logical reason to constitute a government. I've argued that government is an illusion.
  15. "I forgive you for burning down our home, son" said the frail wheelchair-bound dad,clutching his newly-acquired Bbible in one hand and his newly-released from jail lowlife son in the other. How I miss the TPB Remember when they hijacked Rita McNeil's tour bus and forced her and the backup musicians to harvest their weed crop?
  16. I salted the story with a big lie. Hanna Barbera was the big cartoon house. Vancouver had built but a back-office inking centre by the time of the H-B decline in the eighties. We didn't even do Mighty Mouse. Or did we ....? Animation studios in Vancouver now do almost half a billion dollars of business a year as of 2016. That doesn't even include the games industry. And another thing ZZZZsss zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ahem ... a devilish Canadian-American-Mexican confection brought to you by the Vancouver communist crew:
  17. One thing that should be noted about original Canadian TV productions. SCTV, John Candy's King Learesque turn as demoted on-air personality...just a brilliant day's work for the crew. No words enough for how they delighted our entire youth, and beyond.
  18. Peter, Do you also have a prescription for medical mariuana as I do?
  19. Thanks for the primer. Now I am worried that Hollywood will find they don't admire our principles so much, if their government decides to tariff them for not staying in Hollywood. They don't call it show art, after all. And it is a significant sector of our metropolitan income.
  20. When I try to type a reply to OL I get locked up, but if I cut and paste twice I am still OK. Hanna Barbara cartoons? Wow. Is Hanna Barbara in California? I was going to watch “Suits” on Netflix but never got around to it. I don’t think I would want my wife to be an actress who kissed on screen. Ugh. Headlines from the web. “Lois and Clark’s” Dean Cain has joined the Idaho police force. Cities will soon be under water . . . many of them were in New Jersey and they mentioned Ocean City, New Jersey but not Ocean City, Maryland. Yeah! Ah. I mean I am so sorry Atlantic City. Of course Saint Pete and the lower keys in Florida will be gone too. Time for a pick me up video filmed at high elevations in Denmark. I will fake it. What does the fox say? The secret of the fox is an ancient mystery. Somewhere deep in the woods I know you're hiding. What is your sound? Will we ever know? Will you always be a mystery. (Wa-wa-way-do, wub-wid-bid-dum-way-do, wa-wa-way-do) Will we ever know? (Bay-budabud-dum-bam) I want to (Mama-dum-day-do) I want to, I want to know! (Abay-ba-da bum-bum bay-d).
  21. Michael Stuart Kelly

    Conspiracy theories and Conspiracy theorists

    Korben, Not me. Helpfully, Michael
  22. This continues on a tone of harrumph shown elsewhere today. Where to jump in? I can't tell if these guys are playing water polo or trying to kill each other. I stopped loving poetry the first time it was used against me. Eskimo is a slur in Canada, we use Inuit. Patriots, yes, all stripes. From coast to coast to coast. Right wing or conservative values are of long standing in Canada. We have one of those rotating, alternating Westminster systems, the cycle is conservative, reform, liberal, repeat. Reform is generally in a libertarian direction, with long lineage in Alberta, notably, but also in other places. In Ontario a provincial "Common Sense Revolution" overturned a liberal for a conservative decade. And yet, the reform-left took it with an NDP win not so long after the 'revolution' gave way in the cycle. The most conservative thrills in Canada are in Alberta, with a hint of Dear Leader. I'll let you look up Bible Bill on your own. His party was in power for thirty plus years uninterrupted. Of course, Alberta is now as multicultural and talented as any other leading province, so it does a back-flip with an interlude of you guessed-it reform-left NDP. Re the military, look it up. I posted a Remembrance Day comment last November. The military losses play a big role in national iconography like the breasty ladies on the Vimy Memorial. But yeah, military with sorrow accounted for and profound lessons to never militarize a civil conflict between Ottawa and a province. We had wild riots and other unrest in Quebec notably over conscription in both the first and second world war, though of course there are French regiments and regalia in our military traditions. Canadians together need a pretty good reason to go to war against another state, having preferred to mediate the Suez Crisis, sit out the Vietnam war, avoid the second Iraq war, do in and out ops in Afghanistan, and lately Syria in NATO action contra ISIS. Our military is in strict and beautiful alliance with the USA in over-arching defense architecture. NORAD, hell yeah. Anyway. So what? We don't have nukes, having refused them on our soil in the early sixties and causing a stink in Washington. So what is new? Just think of a big half French Californalaska half the size of Russia with half its intrinsic interest besides the persistent Frenchiness. Now, here's the thing. The politics of the film and television industry in Canada are profoundly boring, so I will leave that to the absolute bottom. The figures out of our production centres show an kind of invasion, if not overthrow of the American allied industries. Yes. In the old days, Montreal and Toronto comprised the studio centres in Canada, for both media. Regional production centres were small and almost always under-funded. Still, over time, a reasonably-talented pool of workers was socialized into existence by Canadian content rules and slightly cheaper dollar. Plus straight-up communist tax-breaks for industry. In BC, for example, once the third bump on hill in Canada compared to enormous mountains of production in Los Angeles and New York, and a pretty inconsequential bump compared to Toronto ... with Vancouver the entire market has burgeoned. Nowadays, in terms of raw dollar figures, Vancouver is number three after LA and NYC. We pump out a lot of content, especially in gaming, animation, software and, "American" TV and movies. Thing is, for a long time, you will have had no clue that American TV and movies were shot north of the border. Or which ones. It's a kind of creepy camouflage that Vancouver is really good at. In these cases the local elements are scrubbed in favour of either the Stars and Stripes or effaced into an Everywhere. Where do you think Supergirl is filmed? LA or America-played-by-British-Columbia or communist-tax-break South Carolina? Of all 'Seattle' of Alaska or Pacific Northwest movies, are sixty percent faked in BC? Other than that secret vantage on the communism, we export our own labeled product. Two examples seen in 160 languages or so are the boring and tedious Murdoch Mysteries and the boring and tedious Trailer Park Boys. Anne of Green Gables. Degrassi ad nauseum. Now as to the politics, ever since the animation studios in Vancouver seized the means of production for Hanna-Barbera cartoons back in 196 .. Zsssssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  23. KorbenDallas

    Conspiracy theories and Conspiracy theorists

    How about Melania's jacket? The explanation seems plausible to me.
  24. For future nostalgia, the legal drama "Suits" is also fimed in Toronto, which for the past seven years featured a little actress called Meghan Markle.
  25. Michael Stuart Kelly

    Donald Trump

    William, I get tickled by the left's reaction to Lance deHaven-Smith. He is still carrying the flame that Gore's loss of the election was due to a conspiracy. He makes a pretty convincing case of it, too. Also, he's about as academic and peer-reviewed as they come. So the left loves him. He's one of them. That is, until later and he starts messing in their shit... So they don't know what the hell to do with him. If they endorse him totally, which they feel they have to, they have to allow criticism of their own power and monkeyshines. And they can never allow that. I love it. What I've seen and read of this guy so far agrees with my way of thinking. As for Bush, I don't put it past him and his peeps to conspire to steal the election. They are the kinds of politicians I can't stand (endless war for profit and elitist to the core). The thing is, I don't put it past Gore, either. Nobody talks about the monkeyshines he was up to because he ultimately lost. I like deHaven-Smith's comment that suspicion of the government and the powerful is typically American and it should be encouraged, not shut down constantly with terms like "conspiracy theorist." Terms like that don't exist to persuade or to identify. They exist to stop people from asking questions--to sit down and shut up. It's like the term racist these days. I, for one, am at peace with my own inner conspiracy theorist. May Alex Jones and those like him live long and prosper. btw - This discussion should probably be continued in the Conspiracy Theory thread, seeing how it deals with conspiracy theory and all. Michael
  26. Sorry for besmirching our allies, Carol. I remember some Canadian TV too. Catherine Disher, a Canadian plays Martha Tinsdale, the chubby mayor of Middleton a small town in the US., which is fictionally located just north of Chicago on “The Good Witch.” Catherine Disher was also in the Canadian TV show “Forever Knight.” She was a svelte babe back then. It is filmed in Toronto and of course “The Good Witch” is filmed in Toronto. I wish there was more “magic” in “The Good Witch,” though not like in “Bewitched” or “I Dream of Jeanie.”
  27. Two separate questions lib-conservative, (our versions), usually even-steven. Self-identified Libertarians,I would have to look up but I don't recall one ever getting elected. It sure is not 51% anyway, and we don't have an electoral college praise the Lord!* *That would be my current favourite lord, George Gordon, Lord Byron, who wrote, "yet standing on the Persians' grave,/I could not deem myself a slave." I can recite the whole of "The Isles of Greece" from memory, and many longer selections from Housman to cummings - you really should invite me to a party sometime.
  28. william.scherk

    Donald Trump

    "The Left ate my homework." So? Lots of people got their homework eaten. You still have emotional if not alarming if not loaded language for the next chore of lurning. No giant tentacled blob of hate Left will never be able to take that away from you. Moderator, can I switch topics? This video was trawled for upon MSK's note of the speaker's book comprising SCAD. A profoundly anti-democratic blob has committed 'state crimes' and will again with impunity. Kinda puts a shiver up one's back. Maybe it is time for a Strongman to bring them out in a great purge. Lawlessness should not be tolerated in the Great States. Not from kings, not from princelings, not from peons, not from money-laundering grotesques. Six degrees of separation from Donald Trump quiz: -- why did Michael Cohen choose for his new defense team an ex-prosecutor from the Southern District of New York who was/is pally with the gang that remained after Preet Bharara was fired? I mean, the ex-prosecutor from the same office now investigating his thing ... Now, me -- I think he obviously is smart enough to want to know how his thing slash not yet case or charge could possibly go ... with the frank, honest, and thorough help of someone from the inside of the State Attorney beast. However, if one takes the video to heart, there might be a heartbeat of corruption just under the surface, invisible. There could be state crimes concealed.
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